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    Robalo Warranty - Not

    The problem is that Robalo is dealer-focused, not customer-focused. They don't even have a person who has in their job description to monitor social media. That's insane in today's environment. While Joebalo does respond here once and a while, he's not doing it except to be a nice guy.
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    Corrosion protection

    You should not be trailering with the engine tilted up. If you need to raise the engine so you don't hit the road, then they make different devices to hold the engine and bear the weight. The weight should not be on the tilt mechanism. I store mine down, just tilted up from vertical, so that the oil doesn't pool in the cylinders. If you store it all the way down, and then let it sit for a while, you'll see a tiny cloud of smoke in the exhaust otherwise. There are various "transom saver" devices on the market. Here's Yamaha's - https://amzn.to/2CWM3NW
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    Robalo Warranty - Not

    Name your boat "A Boor".
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    Corrosion protection

    I followed Yamaha's instructions and sprayed everything but the air intakes. I stated how it should be tilted in the 2nd sentence of my response... There are no road hazards when it's parked in my garage for the winter.
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    Corrosion protection

    All you need is silicone spray, nothing Yamaha-branded. You want to store it tilted down in the winter. Ideally, tilt it down all the way, then back up so that it's just up a hair from the straight vertical position. This stops oil from pooling on the cylinders and prevents a big cloud of smoke on startup.
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    R222 explorer front fish boxes getting wet

    We have a fish box on our R160. We rarely use it for fish, so we store things we want dry in it. They were getting wet. We figured that it was due water coming back up the drain, so we bought a rubber drain plug. Still found some wetness. We have finally determined that the water feed, unless turned off physically in the locker, must be spewing some water when we throttle down and water hits the stern of the boat, coming back up the line. We didn't test this extensively, but since the boat is kept in a boathouse, and the wetness is more than condensation, that's the only thing that made sense. Next season (Michigan), we'll validate this in use.
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    warranty support

    Nice post!
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    R200 Coyote Trailer Tire Pressure

    Tire pressure should be printed on the sidewall of the tire. If I recall correctly, mine are 50 lbs.
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    warranty support

    Totally understand where you are coming from. However, your experience is not dissimilar to that when buying an automobile. Dealers are independent, some Ford dealers give great service, some not so great service. Some jump through hoops for you, some don't. I wouldn't expect Robalo would get involved when a salesperson at a dealer that sells their brand (and others) isn't up to snuff. Very different than a refusal to deal with a warranty issue. If I spent $50k at a dealer, and you didn't, and I came in with an issue, I'd expect my salesperson to jump, and do everything he could to get me back on the water. I wouldn't expect that for you, because they're going to wait for Robalo to respond, and make sure it's covered, before doing anything. Just the nature of the beast.
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    warranty support

    FYI - you haven't shared this with Robalo Corp by posting here. Unlike most companies, Robalo doesn't maintain a presence on their own forum. There is a company representative, who occasionally posts, but not as an official company response. It appears that nearly all your complaint deals with 1 dealer, and how they're handing pre-purchase, i.e. advertising product that is sold (not uncommon for boat and car dealers to do this), and having salespeople unfamiliar with company policy. To my knowledge, Robalo dealers provide warranty support on Robalo boats. So if you have a warranty issue on your soon-to-be-new Robalo boat, any Robalo dealer will provide warranty support. Note that they have to get Robalo's approval for all warranty support, and the company is not fast moving in that area. My dealer has repaired several things without issue, including a recent seam that pulled out on my Bimini top. I have no idea if Robalo approved the repair or not, but it was clearly a defect, and the dealer got it repaired, and didn't charge me. Don't expect a dealer that you didn't buy your boat from to do anything until Robalo responds with approval.
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    warranty support

    Any dealer must provide warranty support.
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    Blistering problems

    I suggest you review your warranty more closely. A 2017 is covered for 5 years, not 1, for components. @JOEBALO will hopefully see this.
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    r160 Trolling Motor

    I believe there is a dedicated chase. Have you looked?
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    Error message from Garmin

    Your Robalo warranty is serviced by the dealer. Robalo won't be a your show, only dealer(s). Your dealer has to provide your warranty. Don't know who "anyone" is, but your 2017 has a 5 year warranty on everything but the hull, which is a 10 year warranty. And the engine warranty is separate. As to the Garmin message, I assume you've checked that the port on your Garmin labeled "Sonar" has a cord plugged into it? I'd advise not updating any software at this point, until you perform some basic checking. Firmware should not impact the unit sensing the transducer. Your dealership was required to prep the boat upon delivery, and complete a checklist, which you should have signed. I wouldn't have left the dealer without verifying that everything worked and that you knew how to operate everything. Lastly, the answers you're getting are from customers just like you. Robalo doesn't maintain a presence on their own forum, although a Robalo regional rep posts from time to time.
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    Ultimate newbie questions: how to shop for a Robalo?

    I would not buy a boat before running it. Yet many do. My R160 had a handful of issues, most I would chalk up to poor quality control checks. My dealer has fixed them all. It's a pain to have to put the boat on a trailer, drive it to the dealer, leave it, and then go pick it up, but they have fixed everything. If/when I buy another boat, I can tell you that I'll be spending a long time checking it before picking it up, and requiring them to fix things before I sign. Initially I was sold on Robalo. If/when I buy another boat, I will look at other brands because of the QC issues I've had on mine. It's hard to buy something sitting in a showroom or on a convention floor that you can't go drive and form an opinion on. Boats have whizbang features designed to lure the unsuspecting buyer. Ignore things you don't need/want. Supposedly, per my dealer, the 2019 R160 loses the stupid step, and has a ladder. I don't see it on the site when I look. The step is very, very, very poor design. If Robalo offers a ladder on the 2019, they better come out with a retro-fit for the older boats. Don't even consider buying it without a real ladder, unless the boat is beached you need a ladder.
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    Plant Tour

    We took the tour 22 months ago. Note that the factory isn't really setup for tours. Driven between buildings in a golfcart, we focused on the larger boats as we had planned on buying a 22 foot. Ultimately bought at 16 foot because of small boathouse issue, and didn't tour that setup. What you see is a very manually intensive operation. Fiberglass building was strong with fumes, workers were standing in molds laying down fiberglass mats and spraying. No one wore a ventilator, which we found surprising. Saw boats in various stages of completion, moving through the plants, and then being put into a water tank for run up and leak testing. It was neat, took well under an hour. We did it enroute from Florida to Michigan, so it was only an hour or so roundtrip out of the way as I recall. We ordered our boat AFTER the tour.
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    Blistering problems

    Right. Robalo works through dealers only.
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    2019 R222 on the way!

    No idea of the issues you had prior to taking delivery, but you mentioned not getting a phone number for Robalo headquarters. A simple Google search would yield that number for you (229) 686-7481. Would love to know the dealer, we MAY someday buy property in Western Michigan (feel free to DM me if you don't want to post it). It surprises me the amount of negative comments you find about Robalo, even on their company-owned forum (here), and they spend no effort to respond and improve perceptions.
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    Yamaha Fuel Water Separating Filter

    I have the 18 gallon tank, and yes there is one in the F70. Just a small gas filter.
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    Yamaha Fuel Water Separating Filter

    None on my R160.
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    Tow Vehicle

    Your dealer should be able to get your exact trailer weight, or the tag on the trailer should tell you. You can also fill up on fuel and tow it with your old truck to a scale and weigh it. Then unhook the trailer and get a tongue weight.
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    WORKMANSHIP & QUALITY CONTROL PROBLEMS

    Maybe you should read the OP's original post where it states 2019 boat... As far as the purpose of OP posting over and over about these issues, I don't get it. Robalo dealers get things fixed, not the factory. If the dealer fails to respond adequately, you contact the factory. OP hasn't indicated that he's even contacted the dealer, he's simply posting up his complaints. We've got it, now contact your dealer.
  23. The trailer is going to weigh around 900 pounds. The dry weight of the boat is shown as 2,600 pounds, although it can weigh more than that based on another sheet I have. That's 3,500 pounds and you haven't fitted out the boat, might have fuel in the tank, will have batteries on board. More important, a class II hitch has a max tongue weight of 350 pounds, and you will very likely exceed that. I recall my dealer weighing the tongue of my R160 and coming up with 350 which surprised both of us. The dealer will have a full spec sheet for the trailer.
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    R160 Livewell plug

    We want to use our livewell for storage at times, so we need to put a plug in the drain hole, because otherwise it doesn't stay dry, small amounts of water sometimes come in. Are Robalo's livewell drains a standard size? We did go to a big box hardware store with the drain pipe, and found the threads didn't match any of the PVC plugs, but it seems that livewell expansion plugs are what we need. Figured someone might know what's needed, save me some searching. Figuring an inexpensive plug should be available. Measuring it seems that 1 5/8" is the size, which is much larger than most that I find online.
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    R160 Livewell plug

    We discovered that the live well water input will spray bits of water during normal usage unless the valve is turned off physically. We kept wondering why the top of things got wet in the live well when used for storage. We'll see if that and the plug eliminates the wetness.
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