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About RickR160

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  1. It seems to be a common theme that Robalo doesn't follow through. I toured the plant with my wife last December, and Robin Keller was the tour guide. They SEEMED to be very proactive. We got our R160 in April. The rub rail in the back was very poorly mounted, not close to aligned, and this seems to be a quality issue with how the molded pieces of the boat went together. The bilge was full of screws, plastic bags, and wire ties, and filled a 2nd time as more came down. The two rear seats lost screws in the first few uses of the boat, and a large piece of floation foam fell off wherever it was glued in the back seat area. Fit and finish in many places was poor, sloppy caulking, etc. The Yamaha shift cover was cracked, and the bimini cover frame rubbed when the cover is up but not opened, and the rivets gouge the metal on the opposing side. And the gas tank was mounted (it's portable) backwards, with the fuel pickup on the front, and cannot be reversed because the support system is mounted on the deck and not centered, and would hit the pickup arm if reversed. When I opened the console to run some wires, after I removed the cover piece I found that the hole they cut underneath it isn't even cut on the black line they drew. Doesn't matter - except if you're going to draw a line either cut on the line or after you cut clean the line off so it doesn't look like you just made a random cut. Our dealer has been great on fixing things, and got Robalo to provide a fix on the bimini frame, but it doesn't look great and is already wearing. The gas tank issue is still being looked into by Robalo, I told the dealer I wasn't bringing the boat back until late Spring, so perhaps that's why I haven't heard back. When I complained to the dealer about the fit and finish, and the trash in the bilge, he said that he's been in the industry for a long time and that Robalo is no different from any other company, and whether you spend $20,000 or $200,000 the issues exist. I told him that when I buy a vehicle, I expect a certain level of quality. He said "a boat is not a car or truck, it's not mass produced." My response "that's EXACTLY the reason that it should be better, because it's not mass produced. I can tell you that if I buy another boat in the future, I will be both looking at other brands and doing a very, very thorough exam pre-delivery, and ensuring that my deposit is 100% refundable if the fit and finish doesn't meet my expectations. Because of the issues I had, Robalo has me considering other brands for my next boat. Had they not dumped trash in the bilge, or the dealer cleaned it out at the pre-delivery inspection that we get charged for, perhaps I might not be doing that. But it sends a message - we don't care enough about our customers to teach our employees not to drop the trash while they work. We've enjoyed our first 75 hours on the boat, although we've realized that a 16 footer, despite being heavier than comparable models, gets pushed around quite a bit even on our lake. Unfortunately, we were sized constrained on width when we bought it.
  2. Robalo offers pre-wiring as you noted. That means they supply a path for the wires and access to them. On my R160 they run conduit/tubing from the front to the console and from the console to the back. Here's the picture (may not be specific to the R200 but was from that configuration) that shows where they are:
  3. If I were a Robalo dealer, I'd avoid you like the plaque. My dealer will compensate me for all the things they did not find (like trash in the bilge), floor damage, non-functional 12 volt outlet, etc. That's if I ever buy a brand they sell.
  4. Well clearly rippem won't be buying a Robalo... You won't find a dealer discounting a Robalo, especially current year. They will add things - mine added anchor and line, life jackets, fire extinguisher, first aid kit, whistle, 4 dock lines, 2 bumpers and lines... Had to pay a ridiculous transportation charge (the boat traveled with a bigger boat and that boat would have come anyway) as well as a ridiculous prep charge. Given the issues I found with the boat, they didn't do much inspection during their prep, and they found damage the day of the prep. I also had very minimal engine hours on for the "test drive" they said they took. If I buy another Robalo from them, they will be adjusting for my experience. I know of no way that your local dealer can refuse to perform Robalo warranty work as a dealer. I can tell you that I had an issue with the trim indicator on my Yamaha, and I took it to the local Yamaha dealer located 5 minutes by boat (including idling up a canal), vs. trailering it 1/2 hour to the Robalo dealer, then 1/2 hour back, then 1/2 hour when the part came in, then 1/2 hour back. Had a great experience with the local Yamaha dealer, couldn't have been nicer.
  5. Is this a Robalo 20' boat?
  6. Bad design then. Should have at least 1, if not 2, holding straps on the front so that wind cannot catch it.
  7. I would remove all snap-on cushions when trailering, and fold all folding seats.
  8. I was told in no uncertain terms to never transport it with the service lever locked. A good bump can snap it and the engine comes crashing down.
  9. Many different ones to choose from, including the Extreme Max.
  10. https://www.coyotemfgco.com/ is the current Robalo trailer manufacturer. The trailers are bunk trailers, so if yours has bunks then you just need to space and angle them to match your boat.
  11. Drives me crazy when people post this kind of stuff. Whether a boat or a car, the manufacturer has to PROVE that you caused the failure. You have zero obligation to go to a dealer for service. If you follow their published service schedule, and you used parts and materials that meet their specifications, and you have proof you did it (receipts), they cannot refuse warranty repairs. If they try, you can sue them. I take my vehicles, and will take my boat, to authorized repair shops IF it is work that I cannot do. I can do oil changes, lower case oil change, gas filter, winterization, etc. all myself. https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0138-auto-warranties-routine-maintenance
  12. Could be that the button is not connected to anything, and the dealer figures that a Buckeye won't know the difference... GO BLUE!!!
  13. Wow, now that is defiling a boat. You spent more than $150,000 on a boat on a pizza delivery driver's salary? Then you put slurs on there, words used to denote a lower form of being? Wow... GO BLUE!!!!!
  14. Yes. The site administrator would have to do that, on any forum it's that way, stops people from repeatedly changing their names... Administration of this forum is non-existent. When I couldn't sign up, I had to call Robalo and even then it took a week for someone to respond. Keep in mind that this is a company that when you go to their home page, it says: http://robalo.com/Robalo_Boats_2016.php Yes, that says 2016 although the boats are now 2018...
  15. Agree that practice makes perfect. Also, sometimes throwing a line to someone that they secure on a cleat allows you to pivot the boat in the direction you want to. For example, if current is pushing away from the dock, and you get the front rope cleated, you can then gently put the boat into reverse with the engine pulling you towards the dock, and it will pull it in properly. We are on a canal with a boathouse that is barely wider than the boat. If there is a strong wind, regardless of how I try, I often need someone at the side of the boat to deflect us away from the corner of the boathouse. Sometimes I can goose it in, but as FullThrottle mentioned "don't go any faster than you want to hit the ____".